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John Lilly blasts Apple over update

Safariicon The CEO of Mozilla made a blog posting which takes Apple to task for its decision to include Safari on its Software Update application.

If you have a Mac, this doesn't apply, as Safari is already installed. If you have a PC and run iTunes, this means that Software Update offers to install the latest version browser on your machine, even if you don't  currently have Safari installed.

Mozilla head honcho John Lilly doesn't much like the idea, and his company agrees. Mozilla is providing the press with links to the post, which says Apple's move  violates user trust and undermines security.

Here are a few quotes from Lilly: It’s wrong because it undermines the trust that we’re all trying to build with users. Because it means that an update isn’t just an update, but is maybe something more. Because it ultimately undermines the safety of users on the web by eroding that relationship. It’s a bad practice and should stop.

On the subject of user trust, Lilly writes... There’s an implicit trust relationship between software makers and customers in this regard: as a software maker we promise to do our very best to keep users safe and will provide the quickest updates possible, with absolutely no other agenda. And when the user trusts the software maker, they’ll generally go ahead and install the patch, keeping themselves and everyone else safe.

Lilly may have a point here, though nowhere near as dire as what he makes it out to be. Apple is doing what essentially amounts to an unsolicited installation, a major no-no in security circles, as the more sinister forms of it are a favorite in the adware and fake security fields.

It also touches on a soft spot for Mozilla. In its previous life as Netscape, the company was all but wiped out by a bundled browser known as Internet Explorer, an incident that eventually lead to Microsoft's famous antitrust hearings.

Don't be fooled, however. Apple's latest move isn't even in the neighborhood of what landed Microsoft in hot water. Apple is offering users the option of not installing Safari and only offering it with other Apple software. Microsoft allegedly told PC manufacturers that they would essentially put them out of business by pulling their Windows distribution rights unless they included IE on every machine they shipped.

Apple has pulled a rather shady move with its inclusion of Safari in Software update, but it's nowhere near the worst tactic ever employed in the browser wars. Perhaps Lilly's posting has as much to do with Safari's market share as it does with the browser's installation practices.

Comments

I downloaded Safari and using it.

Posted by lrd | March 23, 2008 3:11 AM

I find Apple's QuickTime Pro notice to be one of the few regrettably invasive things that apple does on Mac OS X machines, but c'mon, Apple is nowhere near as badly behaved on the Windows side as many other businesses. Mozilla all excited about Complaining about Apple's singular intrusion into Windows space seems really overblown when machines from major brands are shipped loaded with a couple hundred gig of dubious versions of software. Apple isn't pre-installing or pre-loading any Windows machines with Apple software, and they're very restrained on their own machines. I think we already know that the customer has Apple software installed, or else Apple Updater obviously wouldn't bother 'em. It is ok with me if Mozilla finds ways to tell me that any of its packages have been updated in release form. I do prefer being able to opt in on such arrangements, but make the arrangements available!

Posted by crenelle | March 23, 2008 4:45 AM

Mozilla's real problem - and the reason for Lily's whining - is that Safari is going to kick their ass performance-wise, and they know it.

Posted by John E | March 23, 2008 7:24 AM

I don't think John Lily should worry, I think he should be loving this and promoting it. The more Windows users that try Safari the more chance there is they will also try Firefox. Windows users tend to be like sheep and will pretty much just use the software that came on the computer. So if now they try this Safari thing maybe they will think wow it is better than IE so when they hear that Firefox is also a browser that they could have for free then maybe they will try it.

Posted by kirasaw | March 23, 2008 3:35 PM

Who cares what John Lilly thinks?
Certainly not me.

Posted by STL | March 23, 2008 7:05 PM

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